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Old Jan 28th 2016, 11:29 AM   #31
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The racing tails are virtually weightless, there's nothing in there. Just a shell that bolts onto the subframe!

When you pull the headlight out, don't forget about the air temp sensor. It's attached to the headlight housing and measures the temps of the air going into the airbox. I just zip tied it up with everything else (it's just a black plug looking thing) until I realized what it was. You'll need to drill a hole for it so that it sticks down through the airtube that comes with the race fairings.

Granted, my bike is a 1299 with the LED headlights but yours likely is very similar. Most of the stuff I've found online (and parts I've ordered) all relate to the 1199 anyway. I even put an 1199 fairing stay and 1199 fairings on my bike.
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Old Jan 28th 2016, 11:59 AM   #32
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When you pull the headlight out, don't forget about the air temp sensor. It's attached to the headlight housing and measures the temps of the air going into the airbox. I just zip tied it up with everything else (it's just a black plug looking thing) until I realized what it was. You'll need to drill a hole for it so that it sticks down through the airtube that comes with the race fairings.
Thanks for this. I have not tackled the front end as yet other than taking off the fairing. I'll get to that in a week or so when the fairing stay comes in.
I am sure I will have many questions for the forum.
During the interim, I'd value a picture of what you are talking about if and when you have the time.
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Old Jan 28th 2016, 08:10 PM   #33
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As noted above, I purchased some Titanium Caliper bolts for the1199. Well, they came today.
They are very light weight, hollow and pre-drilled for safety wiring (Item# TIT6QA2973).

They are beautifully made and extremely light weight; but, unfortunately, and contrary to the guidance provided on Podium Racing's web site, these bolts do not frigging fit the Panigale; they are too long.
(See pic, OEM on the bottom, Item TIT6QA2973 on the top)

Anyway, I'll see if Podium Racing has the proper hardware and If so, I'll exchange for bolts of the proper length (approximately 2-and-3/8ths inches, see Pic) and let you know the item number.
Styler buy some from Proti

great customer service and he will send you the correct ones.

Great write up on all your track preparation. Enjoyed reading it. Thanks
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Old Jan 28th 2016, 09:10 PM   #34
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Definitely don't forget the AIT. I did for a while and caused some closed loop issues last season.

I never drilled it into the funnel like others. Works just the same dangling.

Have fun out there.
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Old Jan 28th 2016, 09:58 PM   #35
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Why is the radiator fan so important on a track-only bike?

I haven't yet tested the racing mod radiator I got installed over the winter but was constantly above 100 cels with the stock radiator and fan riding lightly... And had the fan removed from all my previous trackbikes with no issues as a consequence.
Because there are many times when you are sitting on hot pit (or on the grid when talking about racing) for an extended period of time. You cant always leave your pit and make it on to the track, then make it all the way back to your pit, without stopping for an extended period of time.

The miniscule amount of weight you will save my removing the fan is nothing compared to the stress and risk of overheating your bike.

With that being said, I guess it also depends on where you are. I race in the Southeastern US and regularly see ambient temps of 95-100deg F and track temps of 130deg F (approximately 37deg and 54deg Cel respectively). The bike will overheat in a matter of a few minutes without a fan. Few racers down here remove the fans.
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Old Jan 28th 2016, 09:59 PM   #36
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I understand the risk; it's just that the side-stand is just so damn convenient. What I've done thus far is use the side stand when the bike is in the garage and moving it to and from the track, but zip-tie it up during the track day.

Nonetheless, I will consider your advice. Thanks.
I thought the same thing in the beginning. But as of now I haven't had a bike with a side stand in almost 8 years, and I don't miss it at all. You get used to not having it, even at home.

Racing orgs require it to be removed, so I didn't have a choice. But I got used to it nonetheless.
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Because there are many times when you are sitting on hot pit (or on the grid when talking about racing) for an extended period of time. You cant always leave your pit and make it on to the track, then make it all the way back to your pit, without stopping for an extended period of time.

The miniscule amount of weight you will save my removing the fan is nothing compared to the stress and risk of overheating your bike.

With that being said, I guess it also depends on where you are. I race in the Southeastern US and regularly see ambient temps of 95-100deg F and track temps of 130deg F (approximately 37deg and 54deg Cel respectively). The bike will overheat in a matter of a few minutes without a fan. Few racers down here remove the fans.
Were they able to leave your radiator fan on and still fit the bellypan, did you notice when you had the bike?

I was not able to keep mine, and everyone else I've encountered has had to remove theirs as well to fit the pan. It's all pretty tight down there on the pani..
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Were they able to leave your radiator fan on and still fit the bellypan, did you notice when you had the bike?

I was not able to keep mine, and everyone else I've encountered has had to remove theirs as well to fit the pan. It's all pretty tight down there on the pani..
I never actually laid my eyes on it, but I do remember them specifically saying they were going to leave the fan intact because of the aforementioned reasons.

And I also know they had to do a lot of "engineering" while installing the bodywork because they also installed Cox radiator guards. They had to have some things (brackets, stays etc) altered or fabricated at the machine shop a few times during the process.

So I am pretty confident they made it all work and kept the fan, but I couldn't tell you how they did it.
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Old Jan 29th 2016, 02:22 AM   #39
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I will try to remember to get some pictures at Talladega of how they did it. I wont see the bike before the first race, Livengood will bring the bikes with him and meet me at the track.

I will only have 2x 10min practice sessions to get used to the bike in general. Forget being able to work on setup or play with the electronics. It should be interesting.
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Old Jan 29th 2016, 03:54 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by Chaotic View Post
The miniscule amount of weight you will save my removing the fan is nothing compared to the stress and risk of overheating your bike.
Point accepted. However, removing the fan serves the purpose of getting lower temperatures while riding with stock radiator, by allowing for a better airflow. So it is not a weight issue. And I admit, I time starting up the engine so that I will not have to sit on a volcano...
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