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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 09:58 AM   #1
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Wheelie Control

I have just been assuming this thing had wheelie control along with all the other electronics. According to Motorcycle News and Motorcycles - Motorcycle USA first ride report, one of the 'lows' was 'no wheelie control'.

Anyone else presume it had it?
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 10:06 AM   #2
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To tell you the truth i hope it hasn't. I always ride my BM with traction off because the wheelie control is a pain in the arse as you don't get forward motion. I like to pin the throttle and i'm no wheelie expert but I'm cool with my front wheel hovering above the the tarmac by a couple of foot rather than pogo'ing up the road
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 10:12 AM   #3
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Wheelie control = Throttle control
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 10:17 AM   #4
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I love the the front end slightly off the ground under power, I was hoping the Ducati had it implemented in such a fashion, 8 levels of control, that you could choose the approximate height off the ground. Something smoother than the BMW's have.
And of course, it would be nice to turn off!
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 10:37 AM   #5
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I love the the front end slightly off the ground under power, I was hoping the Ducati had it implemented in such a fashion, 8 levels of control, that you could choose the approximate height off the ground. Something smoother than the BMW's have.
And of course, it would be nice to turn off!
lol, thats cheating in that case i want it set a 4 foot
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 10:47 AM   #6
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Traction control is wheelie control. The electronics compare front and rear wheel speed and if the rear starts speeding up relative to the front, it intervenes. Both spinning the rear and lifting the front look the same to the TC cpu, as soon as the front starts lifting it starts slowing while the rear is accelerating. My current 1198S will lift the front wheel about a foot before it sets it back down.
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 11:48 AM   #7
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Ducati's have had a non-accessible rate of change wheelie control since 2009.
I've spoken to some people at Ducati North America about it and they either deny it or don't know about it.
But the existence of hidden wheelie control has been confirmed by key people.

Too bad it can't be turned off.

In my opinion it's just more nanny control and more surrender of freedom.

My streetfight doesn't set the front back on the ground it cuts power and slams the front down - abruptly!

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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 08:18 PM   #8
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Hey Flynbulldog is that with traction control on and what setting.. i'm new to traction control as you dont need it on an 848. If you turn if off i suppose it will wheelie as per normal. i was talking to a wheelie nut last Saturday who loves his 1198 ..he has his set at 3 but he never mentioned bad intervention.. and in your picky what setting would you be running there?
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 08:44 PM   #9
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Sorry pogly the wheelie intervention works even with the DTC set to off. you cannot turn it off.
Even the 848 has wheelie control. Because it is a rate of change system you can wheelie if you do it slowly - like with a power wheelie.
But if you try to clutch it up like most stunt guys do the engine will cut.

On bikes with DTC wheelie control will be more pronounced as you set the DTC above 3, at 6 you can't even power wheelie.

I almost always ride with my DTC off.

I know that the SBKs and the SF all have wheelie control. I don't know if any of the air cooled bikes do.
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Old Feb 22nd 2012, 11:45 PM   #10
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Thanks for that flynbulldog... I know the panegale is going to need some learning but looking forward to it.
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