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Old May 17th 2012, 06:17 PM   #1
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I Ride: Sold ZX 14, Sold R1, Sold ZX 9, Sold 1199s w/abs-termi, Ride - 1199 R and Diavel w/termi
Dyno Results from 1199s

I just received my Dyno results today after my first service... My Panigale has the full Termi's installed and wrapped..

185.33 wrhp
93.22 ft lbs torque
I understand each dyno is a little different. The temp was 82.6 with humidity just under 20%... Will attempt to download the readout...

I was a little disappointed since I had higher expectations with all the hype surrounding the new motor and model.. The power comes on at 8000 rpm through 10,900 .... While I don't hit the track all that often due to limited time, I enjoy hitting the back roads utilizing the full HP-Top end along with every inch of the rubber...

Has anyone else had a chance to Dyno your bike? If so, can you provide results? I am curious what other owners are seeing vs what the magazines articles are reporting.. Thanks!
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Old May 17th 2012, 06:30 PM   #2
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Not bad at all! My friend had a Honda Civic VTEC with blow off valve, potato launcher exhaust and slammed to the ground. It could not pull those numbers. Congrats and enjoy your bike!!
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Old May 17th 2012, 06:34 PM   #3
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From what I have seen, your bike is pretty much within the recently posted test results. You are correct about the 195 hp hype which is dissappointing but pretty much expected.
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From what I have seen, your bike is pretty much within the recently posted test results. You are correct about the 195 hp hype which is dissappointing but pretty much expected.
Why are u dissapointed? Don't you understand how they get those numbers? Engine dyno, perfect conditions, no emissions control, max air, max high octain fuel. It is not just Ducati. It's Chevy, Audi, .... To make this bike 50 States legal the severily restrict the bike. With the termis it is opened up some but still 50 states legal.

I don't give a shit about whether people like the bike or not, but stop acting like someone lied to you! My 1198 with full termi exhaust still isnt up to the orig engine HP of 170! Give it a break! This bike has huge cylinders moving lots of fuel and air at high RPMs, so logically it would suffer from greater restriction then an inline 4 S1000RR.

Buy a boss hoss for max HP. Me I want to be able to turn.
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Me I want to be able to turn.
+1, That is why I own two.
I prefer companies that under promise and over deliver....anyone else just sucks canal water
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Old May 17th 2012, 09:00 PM   #6
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thudson.....just go up 2 to 3 teeth on the rear sprocket....ull have more down low grunt then!!!
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178.9 hp,
89.4 ft. lbs

64.2F, 33.8% humidity.

Had a problem on the run, so the preceding reflects a peak average. Actual peak readings were 183.2 hp, 91.9 ft. lbs. Reading was done on the dyno at Lofgren Performance.

For reference an 1198S with Akra 2 into 1 into 2 produced 159.4 hp, 90.5 ft. lbs peak at 69.3F 35.2% humidity on the same dyno.

Bike will go back to the shop next week after it is completely broken in, to see if the fuel mapping can be improved. Lofgren has the ability to remap the Mitisubishi ECU for the Multistrada, and is going to work out remapping the Panigale Mitsubishi ECU. Should be able to get a more precise map without using a PCV.

Where was your bike dynoed?
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I just received my Dyno results today after my first service... My Panigale has the full Termi's installed and wrapped..

185.33 wrhp
93.22 ft lbs torque
I understand each dyno is a little different. The temp was 82.6 with humidity just under 20%... Will attempt to download the readout...

I was a little disappointed since I had higher expectations with all the hype surrounding the new motor and model.. The power comes on at 8000 rpm through 10,900 .... While I don't hit the track all that often due to limited time, I enjoy hitting the back roads utilizing the full HP-Top end along with every inch of the rubber...

Has anyone else had a chance to Dyno your bike? If so, can you provide results? I am curious what other owners are seeing vs what the magazines articles are reporting.. Thanks!
Seriously, why are you disappointed? You loose 10% from the crank to rear wheel, therefore do the Mathis, 183+10%=201!!! So how can you be saying about all the hype?!

Also I read somewhere else that you shouldn't pay too much attention to the figures from dyno runs as the 1199 doesn't get to max power as it requires the air intake from travelling at speed, which the dyno cannot reproduce in order to gain its max output.... Now obviously somebody correct me if I'm wrong..?

But I would be more than impressed with that! You just gotta ride the thing to realise its quick, trust me I know which one I'd rather have between my S1000RR and my 1199S!
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Mpls Ducati did it today.. Fred and his group are great to work with..

There is some gains we still can continue to see once the bike is out for awhile.. The Pani is a great bike and pulls strong. It was a just a little disappointing knowing that the bike is second to BMW in power and now in track time (first few reviews)... I know it comes down to rider so I look forward to running with the boyz soon to compare....

Zaster, I agree about owning 2 bikes.. Just picked up another one tonight!!!
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So what are typical figures for crank and rear wheel HP for the S1000RR? I thought that BMW claimed a similar number of just under 200 bhp at the crank. The typical numbers I'm seeing from 1199 dyno runs, 182-186 rwhp and 195 to 200 at the crank, seem to be as advertised and in the same ball park as the BMW.

The likey gain from the clever 1199 air scoop design probably isn't in Ducati's figures, it would be almost impossible to measure as they would need a dyno room with a 190mph gale blowing through it. Do they have a dyno in a wind tunnel?

Also consider the the BMW big-end bolt torque issue which is growing in scale at an alarming pace... I couldn't make the No Limts Aragon track day last week, but I had a few friends go and they saw first hand two 2012 BMW S1000R's throw con rods in just 3 days on track. According to the Aragon track safety staff there had been 5 the week before! The staff were briefing BMW riders separately at the end of the main briefing because they wanted to highlight the problem and ensure riders knew the correct etiquette for when their engine blew-up and spewed oil on the track. BMW seem to have done very little to halt this and are proposing that the faulty engines will be stripped and rebuilt by dealers.

Given that the panigale is better to ride, has more of less the same output and taking into account BMW's lack of customer service, you're still disappointed you chose the 1199? I'm not. You made the right choice, have faith.

Will put mine on the dyno and post results for stock exhaust once I've done a few more miles and can rev it to the red line.

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