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Old Sep 6th 2016, 06:39 AM   #1
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I have been doing some searching and found a few threads where it was mentioned, but they went in depth with talk of changing the dash, wiring harness, BBS, all kinds of shit.

Is there a quick and simple way to bypass the ABS?

Would it be possible to simply plug the ports on the ABS unit, then just run new brake lines directly from the MC to the Calipers like on conventional bikes? Shouldn't that allow you to bypass the ABS while keeping the rest of the electronics intact since the ECU will still recognize the ABS unit?

Has anyone done that?
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I have been doing some searching and found a few threads where it was mentioned, but they went in depth with talk of changing the dash, wiring harness, BBS, all kinds of shit.

Is there a quick and simple way to bypass the ABS?

Would it be possible to simply plug the ports on the ABS unit, then just run new brake lines directly from the MC to the Calipers like on conventional bikes? Shouldn't that allow you to bypass the ABS while keeping the rest of the electronics intact since the ECU will still recognize the ABS unit?

Has anyone done that?
I would imagine if you bypass the ABS unit and run the lines directly from the MC to the caliper then you'd essentially be eliminating the ABS. What is the purpose of this though? Can't you just turn ABS off electronically?
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Old Sep 6th 2016, 07:20 AM   #3
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Yes you can.

The purpose is because the brakes on the Panigale suck and I want to make them better.
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Yes you can.

The purpose is because the brakes on the Panigale suck and I want to make them better.
Well, coming from a streetfighter 848 my 1199 is a million times better in every aspect. But as i said if you bypass the ABS unit you'll be ok
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We have already changed brake pads, swapped to Motul 660 fluid, and my guy bleeds the brakes every day, sometimes twice a day. But there is still way too much lever travel, and they fade too bad.

With the ABS there is just too many "irons in the fire". Too many places the fluid goes, too many places for air bubbles to hide, etc.
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Hey Chris,
The reason for excessive travel in the ABS system is almost always air in the system. The reason being as you mentioned , there are a lot of places for air bubbles to hide.
Most ABS systems require a scan tool to active the internal pumps and solenoids to properly bleed the system. If this is not done, you well never get the brakes properly bled.
Not sure if the guy working on your bike has access to a scan tool but, you might want to try that before removing the ABS system.
The 2 ways of removing ABS will both make the bike very angry.
Simply disconnecting the ABS module shuts down ABS but, Traction control and other features will trigger multiple faults and driveability concerns.
Bypassing the ABS module completely with new lines will also net the same results unless someone recodes the cluster to ignore ABS and all other traction aids.
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Shit.

So even just bypassing the ABS unit but leaving it intact (plugging the ports, and running direct lines from the MC to the Calipers) will mess up the TC and other electronic things?
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Yes Sir
All the systems are dependent of each other.
ABS,Traction control,Wheelie control,etc.
The bike uses ABS to maintain traction
It also uses ABS for wheelie control
Abs is also used for information for engine power delivery
So my friend unfortunately, there is no easy way around removing an integrated system like ABS from a modern hi tech vehicle
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I would imagine that there is a flash or Superstock harness available to disable the ABS for racing purposes. Both the ZX-10r and R1 are using Bosch ABS sensors and that option is available. Chris Ulrich mentioned he picked up something huge in the breaking zones when he did the test of the ZX-10r between ABS enabled and ABS deleted with the kit ECU, something like 50 meters at the track he was at. This is probably something that could be answered with a phone call to Boulder Motorsports I would imagine.

ETA: Disabling the ABS units on other bikes doesn't affect traction or wheelie control, just get an error light on the dash. I've seen tons of R1's on grids all with the same lights on.
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Yes Sir
All the systems are dependent of each other.
ABS,Traction control,Wheelie control,etc.
The bike uses ABS to maintain traction
It also uses ABS for wheelie control
Abs is also used for information for engine power delivery
So my friend unfortunately, there is no easy way around removing an integrated system like ABS from a modern hi tech vehicle
Well fuck me.

We are looking for a "quick fix" bypass to the ABS, without having to change the dash, harness, BBS, ECU or any of that shit.

Thanks for the feedback.
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