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Old Jun 1st 2017, 07:18 AM   #41
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You can't install a BBU on a different bike without electronic wizardry from the dealer DDS system, so by the time you buy one and pay to have it installed it would be kind of "what's the point"? And with the newer bikes, there's no guarantee it would work, AND you'd be creating a potential warranty issue. The DP Upgrade is an offical Ducati accessory, and carries full warranty. Despite the butthurt crowd piling on any chance to bash Ducati these days, this upgrade is NOT intended for very many riders, Ducati offered it specifically for those racing or track riding who want and can use the advanced features of the EVO setup. They'll probably sell 100 worldwide. So not, it's not a conspiracy to make a million dollars. And, no it's not intended to "screw" anyone. They offered it as a helpful upgrade to those who actually need it.
Ok Jarel and thanks. One question for you. What system originally is my 16 R, and if is "old" can My dealer upagrade it??
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Old Jun 1st 2017, 07:24 AM   #42
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Ok Jarel and thanks. One question for you. What system originally is my 16 R, and if is "old" can My dealer upagrade it??
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Sorry no at this point the upgrade will only work on the standard and S models, but it's quite possible they'll have an R version at some point.
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Old Jun 1st 2017, 07:35 AM   #43
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Old Jun 1st 2017, 10:04 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by jarelj View Post
You can't install a BBU on a different bike without electronic wizardry from the dealer DDS system, so by the time you buy one and pay to have it installed it would be kind of "what's the point"? And with the newer bikes, there's no guarantee it would work, AND you'd be creating a potential warranty issue. The DP Upgrade is an offical Ducati accessory, and carries full warranty. Despite the butthurt crowd piling on any chance to bash Ducati these days, this upgrade is NOT intended for very many riders, Ducati offered it specifically for those racing or track riding who want and can use the advanced features of the EVO setup. They'll probably sell 100 worldwide. So not, it's not a conspiracy to make a million dollars. And, no it's not intended to "screw" anyone. They offered it as a helpful upgrade to those who actually need it.


Good point, but there is something a miss here. If the BBU has to be matched to the bikes VIN, the BBU is sold to you matched, or sold to you unmatched and the dealer does the matching, and you are back at the dealers mercy. Some dealers will simply charge you and hour, in which you make out, some might make it $300, to get you back to the $700 mark.

Either way it's going to get interesting.
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Good point, but there is something a miss here. If the BBU has to be matched to the bikes VIN, the BBU is sold to you matched, or sold to you unmatched and the dealer does the matching, and you are back at the dealers mercy. Some dealers will simply charge you and hour, in which you make out, some might make it $300, to get you back to the $700 mark.

Either way it's going to get interesting.
The Ducati Performance Upgrade is NOT a new BBS unit, it's just a software upgrade that has to be installed into your stock BBS using the dealer DDS system, as well as the software key for your VIN, which is the part you're actually purchasing with the upgrade. There's a feature in the DDS to do it, so it doesn't require disassembly, it's a plug-in-and-update (supposedly, we haven't actually done one yet).
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And the term "At the dealer's mercy" doesn't register with me. I don't know any dealers like this:

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So Jarel has given concise and detailed answers to all the questions. The most significant for me was his personal view on the pitch which was that it was not an upgrade for the masses. It is intended for a few riders that use the bike in such a way that this "upgrade" would warrant itself. My question is why isn't Jarel doing sales and marketing for Ducati? I suspect it is because he is truthful in his assessment. Unfortunately for Ducati, that's not going to sell a lot of upgrades. If you listened to "board chatter" you would be under the impression that people can't wait for this. So how is Ducati marketing this? truthfully as Jarel has or like Ford with their pic of the Mustang doing doughnuts on public streets? Maybe that's where the reality disconnect is. Regardless, for the guys gifted enough to be able to ride a bike in this type of performance environment it sounds like a nice addition.
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When I posed the question it was from the standpoint of if I had to replace the brains of the riders aids package would it be plug and play. Even at $360 it isn't something I'm interested in at this point. I appreciate the forthcoming information from Jarel and have found him very helpful in my ownership experience.
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Originally Posted by jarelj View Post
And the term "At the dealer's mercy" doesn't register with me. I don't know any dealers like this:

Lol, i am reading the thread from my computer and not my phone for the first time and just noticing you are a owner/GM. Now I understand your viewpoint, and your words now carry a little more weight.

For reference, I used to be a factory guy on the sales, parts, and consumer service side. I know some good dealers, and I know some bad ones. Like the service advisor that told me a part was not covered under my maintenance plan so he did not install it, but saw fit to charge that very part out on warranty. At the time i was a warranty specialist and that was fraud and I could have triggered an instant warranty audit. I just called the Dealer and ask him to take care of it.

All is good!
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I spoke to my dealer about this upgrade today, it's 311 here in the uk.
They are sending me some information about it.


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