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Old Jul 20th 2017, 11:01 AM   #21
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What's more you'll pay their legal fees as well as your own if you lose. Happy hunting.
" Although standards differ between states and countries, class actions are most common where the allegations involve a large number of people who have been injured by the same defendant in the same way.[1] Instead of each injured person's bringing his or her own lawsuit, the class action allows all the claims of all class members—whether they know they have been injured or not—to be resolved in a single proceeding.[1]

A class action doesn't mean you will lose money out of your own pocket, maybe you are not understanding how a class action suit goes. Someone, hell, BMW could put it out there that Ducati misrepresented their numbers to sell over their S1000RR (they claimed more HP than BMW then). They contact ducati owners who may have been effected (all) and put a huge court ordered fee out on Ducati. This could be to just shut ducati down so one less competition. These class action suits happen all the time in the USA. Maybe you missed when airborne medicine was sued because they werent really a medicine they advertised to be.... Airborne Settles Suit over False Claims : NPR

That was 23.3 Million to be settled. And that was just a normal guy who took them to suit and got them to admit their wrong.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 11:11 AM   #22
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If there's one thing that this thread will effectively accomplish, it's identifying the bench racers on the forum.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 11:25 AM   #23
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Reading this thread again and reading how upset people are, I would swear that Ducati broke into your garage and without warning installed restrictor plates on your bike.

Again, did your bike get slower all of a sudden? The actual printed numbers are meaningless. It's all relative to your own personal enjoyment. For many miles and months you thought your bike was awesome (judging by comments in other threads). Now that you find out that they rate the HP by a different measurement tool it's not longer something you enjoy? Again, it doesn't have any less HP; it's simply measured differently.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 11:30 AM   #24
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i would have to say, not one person here would buy the panigale if the printed numbers stated 120 hp and weight 550 lbs. but since it was 195/205 HP and 367 (dry) the HP to weight was looking great. Now, is 7hp loss going to kill anyone, no...

I agree that i love the bike, i never once complained (as many have on here) about it. It makes me thrilled each time i ride it. But what got me in the seat of the bike (other than the looks) were the specified number that came with it. If i got the bike expecting close to 205 hp and it was really much lower it changes what i am going to do to a 26K USD bike. Or the same with the weight of the bike.

So again, the printed numbers got us all in the door (along with the looks) and no one liked to be lied to . Now, do i think this will go anywhere... Hell no, but its sad they do this regardless.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 11:33 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by lamb00j View Post
" Although standards differ between states and countries, class actions are most common where the allegations involve a large number of people who have been injured by the same defendant in the same way.[1] Instead of each injured person's bringing his or her own lawsuit, the class action allows all the claims of all class members—whether they know they have been injured or not—to be resolved in a single proceeding.[1]

A class action doesn't mean you will lose money out of your own pocket, maybe you are not understanding how a class action suit goes. Someone, hell, BMW could put it out there that Ducati misrepresented their numbers to sell over their S1000RR (they claimed more HP than BMW then). They contact ducati owners who may have been effected (all) and put a huge court ordered fee out on Ducati. This could be to just shut ducati down so one less competition. These class action suits happen all the time in the USA. Maybe you missed when airborne medicine was sued because they werent really a medicine they advertised to be.... Airborne Settles Suit over False Claims : NPR

That was 23.3 Million to be settled. And that was just a normal guy who took them to suit and got them to admit their wrong.
Yes granted, there are huge differences in how the law is implemented, between one country and another, but I am not sure the process is quite as transparent here in terms of costs, particularly if any ruling were to go against you.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 11:39 AM   #26
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I bought the R because it was light weight, I couldn't afford the SL and I was seriously tired of hustling my RC51 "the albino rhino" around my home track.
the albino rino was an awesome machine though and you road it well.
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 11:44 AM   #27
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now i know why my hp4 always smoked those r machines besides my own personal awesome riding so i have one bike for looks at a snails pace (1199) and the real mccoy in the hp4. ducati you keep proving me right all the time.
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I reckon it's because Harley Davidson have taken over
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Old Jul 20th 2017, 12:11 PM   #29
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Mist manufacturers do this and as such , as previously mentioned in this thread the only true comparison is same dyno , same conditions. Even specific tire discrepancy or the way a bike is strapped onto a dyno can make a difference. All I know is the 1299 is plenty fast enough ( too fast in most cases) for 99 percent of us and gives comparable dyno results with anything else in the litre class.


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the albino rino was an awesome machine though and you road it well.
I am trying to be like you sir!
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