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Old Aug 4th 2017, 03:21 PM   #1
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New $621 IMU? Related to DTC EVO Software Upgrade?

Here is a question for sound advice from people with knowledge and/or good (Ducati) connections...

As I am rebuilding the wrecked bike I bought from a salvage auction, I found an unexpected surprise. The IMU was missing! Either my bike's IMU got dropped/lost when the bike suffered a major front end accident that bent the front wheel and forks and lower triple clamps and broke the upper triple clamps, steering nut, front fairing and headlights, or someone pulled the unit off the bike along the way, from the crash site or the inspection site (dealership) to the salvage auction warehouse or during shipment. Anyway, after checking with whomever I could, I am now facing two options:

1) wait until I find a used one online (an old IMU), from another wrecked bike being parted out; or
2) buy the new, expensive one

The old IMU (38540071A, still in the parts catalogues for the 2015-2016 (all models, including the R) was listed for $450. This one however has been superseded by a new one (38540072A, which is in the 2017 parts catalogue) which goes for $621 (list).

Does anyone know the technical difference between the old and the new IMU? Is it the case by any chance that the new very expensive IMU incorporates fully the new, optional performance software upgrade that Ducati has just announced? This recent software upgrade is only available for the 1299 and 1299S of the 2015 and 2015 model years, but comes at a very steep, really shamefully steep extra cost: $600+ for a bike-specific code from Ducati and a "suggested" 30-min labor charge from the dealer.

From the Ducati website:
"Even more performing on your bike! The DTC EVO software upgrade for your bike is now available at Ducati Dealers. The DTC EVO is the latest software from Ducati that will allow you to manage rear wheel slipping on your bike exactly like the famous riders on the racetrack. Contact the nearest dealership using the form below and immediately book the perfect accessory for your performance. The upgrade is only available for 1299 Panigale and 1299 Panigale S models of the 2015 and 2016 model years"
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Old Aug 4th 2017, 03:38 PM   #2
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Just a correction. I verified that the old IMU # appears only in the 2015-2016 parts catalogues, while the new IMU # 38540072A is in the 2017 parts catalogue. But the old IMU (list price $450) for the 2015-2016 bikes cannot be purchased any longer from Ducati, only the new IMU is available now for purchase (list price $629.34).
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Old Aug 4th 2017, 04:05 PM   #3
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The old one is f*cked causes stalling issues
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Old Aug 5th 2017, 07:12 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Halo2 View Post
The old one is f*cked causes stalling issues
Yeah, but was it SW related?

So is the new one a hardware change, SW, or maybe both?
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Old Aug 5th 2017, 07:47 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by gzanini View Post
Just a correction. I verified that the old IMU # appears only in the 2015-2016 parts catalogues, while the new IMU # 38540072A is in the 2017 parts catalogue. But the old IMU (list price $450) for the 2015-2016 bikes cannot be purchased any longer from Ducati, only the new IMU is available now for purchase (list price $629.34).
Talked to my local Ducati service manager and was told that the newer IMU is only a hardware change and totally unrelated to the EVO upgrade.
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Old Aug 6th 2017, 02:59 PM   #6
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Are you talking about the IMU or the ECU?

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Old Aug 15th 2017, 03:13 PM   #7
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https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bik...dtc-evo-price/
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Old Aug 20th 2017, 11:00 AM   #8
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The comment reporting a reply from a dealer ("only a hardware update for the 2017 IMU, nothing to do with the DTC EVO"), which may well be correct, there is still no document or final official word on whether the 2017 IMU embeds also the DTC EVO, or if the latter is stored on the ECU. In the second case, buying a 2017 IMU like I did (the one on my 2015 wrecked bike was missing) obviously does not also give me the benefit of the updated DTC EVO.

Anyway, it is a truly a greedy thing to do for Ducati to charge anything at all (or anything more than a very nominal fee) for a software upgrade, whether to the IMU or the ECU, instead of following the example of Tesla. Truly a missed golden opportunity for Ducati to say thanks (at virtually no cost for it) to his passionate fans, at least the original buyers who forked $20,000+ for their new 2015 and 2016 bikes.
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Old Aug 20th 2017, 11:39 AM   #9
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I guess I found the answer of where the DTC and the DTC EVO are installed win another recent thread focused on the new DTC EVO. Thanks, Jarel.

"Here are a few details on the "Ducati Performance Software Package":

This is specifically for 2015-2016 Panigale 1299 and 1299S models only, and upgrades the DTC and DWC programs to the EVO version that is now standard on the 2017 models. This an ACCESSORY which can be purchased, this is not part of the regular ECU Updates that occur automatically during routine services as they become available from Ducati. The upgraded software algorithms get installed in the BBS unit on the bike, which is the ECU that sits under the seat, not the main ECU on the bike. UNLIKE most other accessories, this one gets tied directly to the VIN# of the bike it's being installed on at the time of purchase, and must installed on that VIN# bike at the dealership using the DDS system. MSRP on the accessory, part# 96580151A is $565, plus any installation costs charged by the dealer installing it. So if you want it, you need to contact your dealer and initiate the order so they can get it ordered for your VIN#.

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Old Aug 20th 2017, 11:41 AM   #10
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Then my remaining question is: what is different between the 2017 IMU and the 2015-2016 one. If hardware, then is it better sensors, or what?
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