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Old Aug 9th 2017, 09:38 PM   #1
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Suspension too hard

The suspension of my 1299 S is too hard for my weight (66 kg / 147 lbs without gear) for street use. I have already put the DES the on the softest stage. This does not change the spring, does it? Or am I thinking wrong?
With older contributions to this topic (search function) I am not advanced. Can also be due to my bad english...
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Old Aug 9th 2017, 10:31 PM   #2
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I am 68-69kg before gear and found my rear suspension to be a bit stiff on the 1199S, and changed the rear spring from the standard 90nm spring down to a 80nm spring and that helped a lot for me both on the street and for track days. I left the front springs in the forks as standard.

you can get your local dealer to order different springs, you can see some recommendations for weights on:
https://www.ducatiomaha.com/collecti...s-shock-spring
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Old Aug 9th 2017, 10:34 PM   #3
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Spring pre-load is purely mechanical and not affected by DES settings. I am lighter than you and find the suspension a bit firm for road riding but very good on tracks. I use fixed mode and have softened the compression damping for Sport mode (I use Sport for road riding and Race for tracks). If you haven't already done so, measure your sag and adjust the preload to suit. I managed to get both front and rear to sensible values without changing the springs.
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Old Aug 9th 2017, 10:54 PM   #4
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Thanks guys for your help. Then I'll probably try first to adjust the sag. @ razz: can you tell me how much the sag should be? And how can I adjust the front?
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Old Aug 9th 2017, 11:20 PM   #5
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Big blue hex nuts on the top of each fork leg. Remove the cable from the top of each fork leg in order to fit a socket. (Lift the gaiter and press the release tab.) Use a plastic bag between the socket and the fork leg in order to avoid marking the alloy.

Sag settings - I fear starting a sag settings war if I tell you my settings. Look on the Ohlins web site for guidance. How much you dial in will depend on the intended use, more for road, less for track. You should look to achieve broadly the same sag front and back.
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Old Aug 9th 2017, 11:24 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by razz View Post
Big blue hex nuts on the top of each fork leg. Remove the cable from the top of each fork leg in order to fit a socket. (Lift the gaiter and press the release tab.) Use a plastic bag between the socket and the fork leg in order to avoid marking the alloy.

Sag settings - I fear starting a sag settings war if I tell you my settings. Look on the Ohlins web site for guidance. How much you dial in will depend on the intended use, more for road, less for track. You should look to achieve broadly the same sag front and back.
OK, Thank you for the help razz!!
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Old Aug 10th 2017, 12:01 AM   #7
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suspension among the stiffest of bikes I have ridden, that R is...
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Old Aug 10th 2017, 02:35 AM   #8
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Change from F to P on the rear shock
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Old Aug 10th 2017, 08:48 AM   #9
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Change from F to P on the rear shock
Hmm ... Are you sure? According to my instructions for use: F = flat = solo operation, P = progressive = with passenger
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Old Aug 10th 2017, 09:16 AM   #10
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Yes R is super stiff. I had a dialed in by Dave Moss at the track few times. Dave Moss said "wow stock setting is super stiff!"

It is so well tuned now and lets me do just about anything.
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