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Old Mar 18th 2017, 10:26 AM   #1
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Which one is the best for the 959 on track ?

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Old Mar 18th 2017, 10:59 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by zedexman View Post
Which one is the best for the 959 on track ?

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Is the new Suzuki better than the Ducati
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Old Mar 18th 2017, 11:12 AM   #3
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I run Dunlop slicks on my 675R and Pirelli on the 1299. They are very different tires. Really depends on your riding style and what you're looking to get out of the tire.
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Is the new Suzuki better than the Ducati
Wrong post lol

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Originally Posted by zedexman View Post
Wrong post lol

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I was trying to infer it was preference. You gotta try them out and make your own decision. They wouldn't be for sale if they weren't competitors.
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Unless you are 3 or 4 seconds off the lap record, it won't make any difference.

I've run both at COTA, my lap times, A group, are the same on both.

Both brands stick like glue for us mere mortals.
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Old Mar 18th 2017, 03:49 PM   #7
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I was gonna say, if you can tell the difference between the two you should be racing professionally. Hell I've been mid A group on TOURING tires. First Pirelli Angels, then I "stepped up" to Rosso 2's for over a year lol... Then I lowsided at over 100 mph, but they had a lot of heat cycles on them. But the point is you can go fast on any tire.
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I don't race professionally but I can certainly tell the difference between the two. The carcass of the Dunlops is MUCH stiffer than the Pirellis. The profiles are quite different as well. They definitely have a different feel. The other huge difference is how each tire warms up. The Dunlops have to be completely heat soaked to include the sidewalls. They're also more temperamental to air pressure levels. The Pirelli's are a bit more forgiving and can be brought up to heat fairly quickly on the track. I'd say warmers are nice to have with the Pirellis but an absolute must on the Dunlops.
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Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
I don't race professionally but I can certainly tell the difference between the two. The carcass of the Dunlops is MUCH stiffer than the Pirellis. The profiles are quite different as well. They definitely have a different feel. The other huge difference is how each tire warms up. The Dunlops have to be completely heat soaked to include the sidewalls. They're also more temperamental to air pressure levels. The Pirelli's are a bit more forgiving and can be brought up to heat fairly quickly on the track. I'd say warmers are nice to have with the Pirellis but an absolute must on the Dunlops.
Agreed. The carcass is much stiffer on the Dunlop and it's a 200/55 vs the Pirelli 200/60. I want to switch over a try the Pirelli Superbike slick but damn it's a pretty big price difference and the Dunlops hold up well as far as wear. I've only used the Pirelli Superbike pro slick and it wasn't bad but my local track torched the right side as it's right turn heavy.
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I don't race professionally but I can certainly tell the difference between the two. The carcass of the Dunlops is MUCH stiffer than the Pirellis. The profiles are quite different as well. They definitely have a different feel. The other huge difference is how each tire warms up. The Dunlops have to be completely heat soaked to include the sidewalls. They're also more temperamental to air pressure levels. The Pirelli's are a bit more forgiving and can be brought up to heat fairly quickly on the track. I'd say warmers are nice to have with the Pirellis but an absolute must on the Dunlops.
Agreed. The feeling is different: The Pirelli's carcasse is softer and they move around much more than the Dunlop's, which are more precise (especially the front).

Dunlop's are more consistent with lap times than the Pirell's too in my experience. Pirelli's are super grippy at the beginning. But my lap times drop around 1 second on the Pirell's after about 8-10 laps. The Dunlop's are more consistent through the cicle and I can still do pretty much the same fast laps after 15 laps like on the beginning. But the fastest lap times are nearly identical on both tires.

Plus, at least with my riding stile, the Dunlop's last a lot longer than the Pirelli's. Depending on the track, I normally use 1 Dunlop rear slick per day, while I need two Pirelli's at the same time. Especially on tracks with high abrasion like Barcelona.

P.S. You're a brave (or maybe insane) man if you go on track with cold slicks! First corner -> high sider or front wheel low sider. I wouldn't spend waisting 2-3 laps just o heat up the tires each turn.
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