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Old Jul 28th 2013, 07:43 PM   #21
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great info I need to do this modification I always have the hard starting issues !
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Old Aug 8th 2013, 03:25 PM   #22
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I do have the issue with the hard start as well, but I thought that it was because of the battery being cold.

I might do this mod but, what does the charcoal canister actually do ?
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Old Aug 8th 2013, 03:26 PM   #23
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Oh never mind. I just figured out that most of the answers were in the search box :|
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Old Aug 8th 2013, 06:38 PM   #24
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This makes the Panigale R start mo' faster?
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Old Aug 9th 2013, 07:36 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by BAIBAICOP View Post
This makes the Panigale R start mo' faster?
It does appear to help with the hot start issue.
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Old Aug 28th 2013, 06:08 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by AntiHero View Post
The charcoal canister is an emissions piece and can be the source of hard starting (do a search for more info--lots written about it).

Most dealers won't remove it, so if you want to do it you'll have to do it yourself. Not many mods are easier than this, so long as you know which line to cap and which to vent.

1) Remove your upper and lower right side fairings, which will expose the canister.



2) Undo the rubber strap holding the canister to the bike, then remove the top two hoses (cutting off with scissors works if you don't plan on ever installing it again).



As in the picture, one of the lines leads from the gas tank to the canister and the other leads from the canister back up into the intake:



3) The line from the tank (which has a larger inside diameter than the vacuum line in case you cut both lines and now can't figure out which was which) needs to be extended using about another 12" of hose and a hose barb and routed to a safe place (read: far away from your headers/exhaust!). I removed the hose from the bottom of the canister and used this to extend the fuel vent line, which was conveniently just the right length. Route it wherever it's safe to route it, as gas/gas vapors will be escaping from this line. Make sure it's not blocked, kinked, smashed, or plugged with the bodywork back on.

4) Plug the vacuum line (which has a smaller inside diameter than the vent line). You can cap it with a hose cap, fold it and zip tie it tightly, or shove an M4 screw into it and zip tie it (which is what I did).

5) Remove the charcoal canister bracket by unscrewing the three screws marked in the pic below.



Finished (plugged line is hidden):


While you're at it, make sure the other fuel vent line (the one in the far right, closest to the front wheel, running vertically down) is not pinched or kinked when you put the bodywork back on. During my last service they pinched the line and I didn't discover it until I did this mod.
Looking at the diagram, the two outlets from the tank seem to come from the same place.

1. Can anyone confirm whether they have different internal sources inside the tank?
Do the two outlets serve a different purpose?

2. If not, what would be the down side of shutting the outlet, that originally went to the charcoal canister, directly at the tank? Without a tube going anywhere.
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Old Aug 30th 2013, 05:31 PM   #27
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Excellent info. Question: My dealer re-mapped some FI setting on my bike (don't remember what it was exactly, but suspicious) as a workaround for not removing the canister. Works 90% of the time, until I need to start my bike at 219F out in the desert @ 2000' @ 100F air temp. Will removing the canister conflict with the FI changes? I know I'm not providing much useful info but oh well. I'll call the dealer tomorrow and reconfirm what they changed as it seems to be a common thing and reply back then.
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Old Sep 4th 2013, 11:05 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by BAIBAICOP View Post
Excellent info. Question: My dealer re-mapped some FI setting on my bike (don't remember what it was exactly, but suspicious) as a workaround for not removing the canister. Works 90% of the time, until I need to start my bike at 219F out in the desert @ 2000' @ 100F air temp. Will removing the canister conflict with the FI changes? I know I'm not providing much useful info but oh well. I'll call the dealer tomorrow and reconfirm what they changed as it seems to be a common thing and reply back then.
Nope. Removing will have no negative side effects.
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Old Oct 15th 2013, 11:06 PM   #29
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Just finished this mod...super simple
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Old Nov 17th 2013, 03:38 PM   #30
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I was just doing this mod and found that my fuel lines run differently and my 1199s doesn't have the square electrical box immediately above the charcoal canister. What is that unit? ABS maybe?
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