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Old May 9th 2017, 10:16 AM   #11
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Thanks Phil! I had it and had the Twist of the Wrist books as well on PDF but can't find them now... Anyone got the Twist of the writ books on PDF?
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2 schools of thought there. twist of the wrist believes in throttle control and is against trail breaking

ycrs is all about trail breaking and nick is the head of ycrs.

i believe you need both
Agreed, my understanding of the Code schools is to get all breaking done prior to turn in and YRCS is trail braking as you said. I've done some classes with Ken Hill who works with the YRCS team and others and his approach is trail braking to or through the apex depending on if it's an entry or exit corner.
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Agreed, I listen to his pod casts over and over again while on flying around for work.
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Thanks Phil! I had it and had the Twist of the Wrist books as well on PDF but can't find them now... Anyone got the Twist of the writ books on PDF?

I can put that up as well later
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Agreed, my understanding of the Code schools is to get all breaking done prior to turn in
I've seen this said countless times on internet forums, almost exclusively by people who haven't been on a California Superbike School class.

Here is a link that might elaborate on CSS's attitude to trail braking:

https://www.facebook.com/californias...34032623295378

I'm guessing most people won't read it, so here are a few excepts:

Misti: Do you teach trail braking at the California Superbike School?
Keith: It’s a key part of our RACE school drills. It also comes up on Level 3 during a drill called Attack Angles. It can be covered at any time during Level 4 classes for which we have specific drills. Otherwise it’s also covered on request at any other point.
Misti: Some people believe that you either do it all the time in all corners or you don’t do it at all. What are your thoughts on this?
Keith: It is irrelevant whether you are finishing off your braking straight up or leaned over, you always trail off the brakes. The logical approach is to train someone to do that straight up first. Later you could take up trailing them leaned over.
Misti: Is there a hard fast rule that braking should be done BEFORE you tip the bike into the turn?
Keith: There are 27 references to trailing brakes and why in my three books on riding. They were released in 1983, 1986 and 1993, way before there was any controversy on the subject. Interestingly, those books were the first time anyone had approached trail-braking in writing and photographed the advantages and uses of the technique for motorcycles. No one can argue with that, it is the first written history of trail-braking for motorcycles. These days, from how some riders talk about it you'd think that trail-braking was some new innovation, just invented. It’s probably due to me describing it as “braking while leaned” or “letting of the brakes while leaning in” instead of calling it “trail braking” which had previously been an exclusively car racing term.
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