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Old Nov 18th 2012, 02:19 PM   #21
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I went from having it delivered in progressive form to flat. Tech set sag in flat form. I don't like it..much more harsh on the street..almost lost it several times in the corners because of chassis upset.

My question...if I put it back to progressive, will I have to redo sag settings?
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Old Nov 19th 2012, 03:00 AM   #22
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Not sure but just measure current setup in F and after changing to P, re-measure and see if it's different...
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Old Nov 20th 2012, 08:20 AM   #23
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If the distance between the 2 bolts are the same as the distance between the 2 cut out slots, then surely the ride height would be the same.You have moved the pivot point on the shock inkage, but compensated with a longer tie bar (revealed threads on the dog bone).

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If the distance between the 2 bolts are the same as the distance between the 2 cut out slots, then surely the ride height would be the same.You have moved the pivot point on the shock inkage, but compensated with a longer tie bar (revealed threads on the dog bone).

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Old Nov 20th 2012, 10:23 AM   #25
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that's correct, changing f to p does not affect ride height as you're turning the threaded shaft in or out to to line up with the f or p position.

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If the distance between the 2 bolts are the same as the distance between the 2 cut out slots, then surely the ride height would be the same.You have moved the pivot point on the shock inkage, but compensated with a longer tie bar (revealed threads on the dog bone).

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Old Nov 21st 2012, 07:04 PM   #26
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Thanks guys...I was hoping that to be the case..
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Old Feb 26th 2013, 10:48 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by The Hammer View Post
If the distance between the 2 bolts are the same as the distance between the 2 cut out slots, then surely the ride height would be the same.You have moved the pivot point on the shock inkage, but compensated with a longer tie bar (revealed threads on the dog bone).

A very useful thread. Thankyou.
This may be true, but maybe not... The length of the linkage rod is being increased/decreased by an amount equal to the distance between the mounting holes, however we are also (possibly) changing the leverage (hence the fact that one setting is flat, creating a consistent leverage/force applied to the shock, while the other setting is progressive, creating an inconsistent force being applied to the shock.)

Has anybody performed this modification and measured their before and after ride height?
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Old Feb 27th 2013, 02:34 AM   #28
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Ye I've got a track day soon and I'd like to try F. I have already set my sag etc so if I switch to F from P do I need to reset the sag?
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Old Feb 27th 2013, 08:15 AM   #29
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F to P or the other way 'round will not affect static ride height for the reasons stated, but your sag will be affected since you're changing the effective spring rate. Your dynamic ride height while underway will change, too. P starts out softer than F and gets stiffer than F in the latter part of the travel (by design), so yes, it will affect how the bike sits with you on it, both at rest and in motion.

If your sag was set in F then you should see a bit more in P, and vice versa prior to re-adjusting sag.

Forgot to add; sometimes with more progressive linkages it helps to run a bit less sag, so you stay in the softer part of the curve longer. Otherwise the rear sags down, hits the stiff part of the curve and gets relatively non-compliant.

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Old Mar 4th 2013, 06:06 AM   #30
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Great topic guys, please correct me if I misunderstood some of the comments. The manual recommends F for track usage but are you all say P is actually is better? My Pani will be a track only bike so Im trying to get the best advised from some of you guys that have put some miles on your bikes. Thanks!
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