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Old Jan 10th 2014, 09:53 AM   #51
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I just don't get how they can make a bike that's set up for 2 different rider weights...front and back...
I don't get how they sprung it for a 190lb person. I'm sure me at my 160 is much closer to a standard Italian racer.
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Old Jan 10th 2014, 10:02 AM   #52
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I just don't get how they can make a bike that's set up for 2 different rider weights...front and back...

They didnt. Allthough I notice the front is a little softer in comparison. Which has been typical for Ducati


It is set for a almost 190lb rider


Any lighter or heavier does require new springs

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Old Jan 10th 2014, 10:09 AM   #53
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I don't get how they sprung it for a 190lb person. I'm sure me at my 160 is much closer to a standard Italian racer.

They set these up for 2 up.

So the rear spring is a bit stiff, making it ideal for me at 195lb



I had to soften up the rear and teh spring is perfect.

The front I had to go 5 360 degree turns in to get decent sag numbers
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Old Jan 10th 2014, 10:17 AM   #54
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They set these up for 2 up.

So the rear spring is a bit stiff, making it ideal for me at 195lb



I had to soften up the rear and teh spring is perfect.

The front I had to go 5 360 degree turns in to get decent sag numbers
Is it ok to just the the rear? I was told that I'd have to do both at the same time. Replacing fronts are much more expensive, I'd LOVE it if I could get away with just doing rear.
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Old Jan 10th 2014, 10:25 AM   #55
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Is it ok to just the the rear? I was told that I'd have to do both at the same time. Replacing fronts are much more expensive, I'd LOVE it if I could get away with just doing rear.

The only way you will know is to set the front and see if you can get to your sag numbers.

If your tracking it, tighter sag numbers would work out nice.
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Old Jan 10th 2014, 12:27 PM   #56
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We can agree to differ... ... I am only one voice... and possibly the only one that feels this way.. I agree Ohlins is great stuff...but not the stock version...

Stock ohlins (with correct springs) on the S are great, a world better than racetech-modified showa or the stock showa i had on my 848. The hysteresis response and the sensitivity to even minor adjustments are just superb, which I think can be attributed to the TiN coating?

But I agree, aftermarket ohlins are apparently better than stock ohlins.

I found that the rear TTX mk I is practically as good as the aftermarket TTX mk II for my level, though.
I don't race, though. I just do trackdays in medium-fast group and well-spirited roadriding.

What aftermarket ohlins do not have, though, is the ability to switch back from track to road to rain mode on the buttons. Yes, I am vain and lazy.
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Old Jan 11th 2014, 12:21 AM   #57
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Agreed, however unless you are building a flat out no-street race machine, Ohlins cant be beat on the street.

That said, I have not ridden any of the new semi-auto systems like Skyjacker or BMW's. They sound promising for street use!
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We can agree to differ... ... I am only one voice... and possibly the only one that feels this way.. I agree Ohlins is great stuff...but not the stock version...
Honestly Stw, If the current Ohlins spec on the S/R is not up to par.
Then what do you believe is an appropriate Ohlins spec for the street????
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Old Jan 11th 2014, 04:49 AM   #59
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If you have a S and are not riding 2 up on the street then do yourself a favor and re-spring the rear for your weight. Having it sprung right makes a world of difference.
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My .02 cents......

Everyone racing this bike has gone to a heavier spring, which seems counter intuative, but the shock mount being linear in nature I think makes sense.

To Stw, not to call you out, but I spent two days with Dave Moss and he said the stock Ohlins was good enough to get a rider within 4 seconds of the lap record. To get any closer required re-valving. He did say the after market Ohlins was a bit better than the OEM stuff, but that's primarily because it's made to order, with higher spec internals.

I suspect the going from F to P for road riders without refitting the spring is the way to go.

Anyone that has driven exotic sport cars will tell you they're awesome, but ride like shit at slow speeds and becomes sublime at race pace.
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