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Old May 21st 2014, 10:57 AM   #11
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Ok, I asked for futher clarification on this to get a definitive answer from the parts guru at Ducati, here's what he said today:

The new part number 44440312B is specified for the 899 and 1199SL, and this part number is the latest number and will fit all Superquadro engines. The older part number 44440291C was specified previously on 1199/S/R models, and if there are any of these filters left they should be used on those models only. Once those filters are all gone, there's no reason to ever get more of them, since the new part number will fit all of the bikes. When asked if using the 0291C filter on an 899 will cause a problem, answer was that in theory the seal may not be as tight as the new filter so it's best to use the new one just to be safe. So there you go, use the 0312B filter on any Panigale engine and you're fine. Use the old part number 0291C on the 899 or 1199SL and there's a theoretical risk so don't do it unless you're "in a pinch".
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Old May 21st 2014, 02:29 PM   #12
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The ID can be the same but the filter media may be more restrictive at different pressures.
What is the flow rate? Is there a pressure difference between these filters?
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Old May 21st 2014, 06:28 PM   #13
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The ID can be the same but the filter media may be more restrictive at different pressures.
What is the flow rate? Is there a pressure difference between these filters?
Does this matter anymore? From what I read of Jarel's response from the Ducati NA person, they have discontinued the previous filter and when they run out of current inventory, there will only be one filter for 1199 base/S/Tri/R/SL and 899.
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Old May 21st 2014, 06:59 PM   #14
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Does this matter anymore? From what I read of Jarel's response from the Ducati NA person, they have discontinued the previous filter and when they run out of current inventory, there will only be one filter for 1199 base/S/Tri/R/SL and 899.
If you know the answer to my questions, no, if not, then yes. I enjoy learning about the technical differences and reasons for changing their offerings.

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If you know the answer to my questions, no, if not, then yes. I enjoy learning about the technical differences and reasons for changing their offerings.

Thanks for asking.
I wasn't trying to be a dick, just a practical question. I appreciate knowing the performance difference between the original and the new product. However, even if the original product is deemed better, if it's not in production any longer then it becomes a moot point (and a painful one at that).
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I wasn't trying to be a dick, just a practical question. I appreciate knowing the performance difference between the original and the new product. However, even if the original product is deemed better, if it's not in production any longer then it becomes a moot point (and a painful one at that).
Fair enough. What questions should we ask when the next filter comes out if we don't know the reason for the changed/discontinued previous version? What if its just a repackaged old one, how would we know?
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Getting ready to do my first oil change and the price of the cartridge filter is $46? WTF?

I can't believe these guys.
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Old Aug 7th 2014, 08:43 AM   #18
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Getting ready to do my first oil change and the price of the cartridge filter is $46? WTF?

I can't believe these guys.
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Getting ready to do my first oil change and the price of the cartridge filter is $46? WTF?

I can't believe these guys.
K&N do one now for $10 but you will need to buy your own crush washer and O rings
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I use Scotts oil filter. The best out there period. The last oil filter you will ever need! Never again change your Oil Filter

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