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Old Feb 17th 2015, 01:56 PM   #11
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why not? frame and all chassis components are the same.
Didnt know with the base swingarm not adjusting like the r model does.
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 02:26 PM   #12
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didn't read anything about a swingarm here: http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/20...tml#post192623
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 05:15 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Phl View Post
didn't read anything about a swingarm here: http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/20...tml#post192623

Sorry was referencing the 2mm drop on the swingarm. Thought it was relevant.
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 05:27 PM   #14
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I'm not advocating this change for any model other than the "R" because of the ability to adjust the swingarm to replicate the 2015 models (ie. 24 deg. rake and -4mm swingarm).
In my ride report I stated that I'm running -2mm on my swingarm, partly because that's where I had it before the install of the 24 degree rake kit and partly because I like a quick steering bike.
The 2012-2014 base and "S" have what would be 0 degree swingarm position. Putting this kit in a Base or S would result in VERY Quick steering and maybe a tendancy for front-end-tuck.
Sorry I didn't make this clearer. This kit is sold for track use.
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 05:45 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Doug916SP View Post
I'm not advocating this change for any model other than the "R" because of the ability to adjust the swingarm to replicate the 2015 models (ie. 24 deg. rake and -4mm swingarm).
In my ride report I stated that I'm running -2mm on my swingarm, partly because that's where I had it before the install of the 24 degree rake kit and partly because I like a quick steering bike.
The 2012-2014 base and "S" have what would be 0 degree swingarm position. Putting this kit in a Base or S would result in VERY Quick steering and maybe a tendancy for front-end-tuck.
Sorry I didn't make this clearer. This kit is sold for track use.
Thanks . I actually have my kit on the way so am looking forward to trying it out .
I have been getting my best results on -4 so will be interested to see the difference between what it is now .
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 05:49 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Doug916SP View Post
I'm not advocating this change for any model other than the "R" because of the ability to adjust the swingarm to replicate the 2015 models (ie. 24 deg. rake and -4mm swingarm).
In my ride report I stated that I'm running -2mm on my swingarm, partly because that's where I had it before the install of the 24 degree rake kit and partly because I like a quick steering bike.
The 2012-2014 base and "S" have what would be 0 degree swingarm position. Putting this kit in a Base or S would result in VERY Quick steering and maybe a tendancy for front-end-tuck.
Sorry I didn't make this clearer. This kit is sold for track use.
Thx would a ride height linkage solve that issue with a base model?

Sato Panigale Ride Height Adjustment Linkage Rod 1199 | D-1199ROD-BK
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 06:02 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by b9009b View Post
Thx would a ride height linkage solve that issue with a base model?

Sato Panigale Ride Height Adjustment Linkage Rod 1199 | D-1199ROD-BK
I don't think so . The adjustment on the R lowers or raises the swing arm on the pivot
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 06:12 PM   #18
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I don't think so . The adjustment on the R lowers or raises the swing arm on the pivot
K. Thanks. So in order to do this one would need to get an 1199r swingarm.
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 06:24 PM   #19
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I agree w/Wilkson. Also, the Sato unit makes a drastic change to rear ride height, The Bursi unit, tho more costly, at least, can make fine adjustments.
They still don't effect the pivot-point of the swingarm.
Now we're into the dark arts. I'm sure some talented track tuners will find the optimum settings with variable triple clamps, dropping forks, changing swingarm lengths, etc. All the tricks that folks did on the 916-1098's and more thanks to electronics!
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 07:02 PM   #20
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I'm most interested in the inserts that will be in the 2015 panigale R. Aside from
a change in mass distribution, the 5mm increased wheelbase (with likewise increase in rake to 24 degrees) might give a tad more clearance for the front wheel under heavy braking on track

Curious as to whether any suspension gurus have thought about this already, or if I'm off in the weeds...

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