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Old Nov 27th 2012, 05:38 AM   #1
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Falling to pieces!!!!

Over three weeks i have had....
week 1 - allen key bolt that retains quick shifter fall off resulting in no gears

week 2 - the small black triangle cover near your left knee fall off

week 3- both bolts holding the kickstand on fall out. when pulling up i realised it was hanging by microswitch cable.. upon further inspection other bolts were lose including the main subframe torque bolts. none of them had loctite.


has anyone else had this issue
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Old Nov 27th 2012, 05:58 AM   #2
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Firstly, sorry to hear of your troubles. I would suggest a firm word with your dealer, since he should have checked the bike over during the PDI.

Regarding your issues:

week 1 - allen key bolt that retains quick shifter fall off resulting in no gears
>> If you mean the shift rod, then yes, a few guys had this problem.

week 2 - the small black triangle cover near your left knee fall off
>> I recall one guy lost this. They are secured with pegs, so can fall off if not located properly.

week 3- both bolts holding the kickstand on fall out. when pulling up i realised it was hanging by microswitch cable.. upon further inspection other bolts were lose including the main subframe torque bolts. none of them had loctite.
>> Thats a new one and sounds quite dangerous.

It must be very off putting to worry about such issues, particularly from a safety perspective. Ensure a capable technician checks everything then put your mind at rest and enjoy the bike.
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Old Nov 27th 2012, 06:16 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by t1199panigale View Post
Over three weeks i have had....
week 1 - allen key bolt that retains quick shifter fall off resulting in no gears

week 2 - the small black triangle cover near your left knee fall off

week 3- both bolts holding the kickstand on fall out. when pulling up i realised it was hanging by microswitch cable.. upon further inspection other bolts were lose including the main subframe torque bolts. none of them had loctite.


has anyone else had this issue
Yes, it is frustrating. I hate using this phrase, but T-CLOCS is important with these bikes. I've started being very thorough in checking before I ride.
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Old Nov 27th 2012, 06:24 AM   #4
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I put a zip tie around that black plastic triangle shaped cover and no problems. I suppose I shouldn't have had to do that, but we all know ducati's history with creating masterpieces while missing insanely simple details...

Go thru your bike and check every bolt, don't count on dealer to do that.
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Old Nov 27th 2012, 08:28 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by t1199panigale View Post
Over three weeks i have had....
week 1 - allen key bolt that retains quick shifter fall off resulting in no gears

week 2 - the small black triangle cover near your left knee fall off

week 3- both bolts holding the kickstand on fall out. when pulling up i realised it was hanging by microswitch cable.. upon further inspection other bolts were lose including the main subframe torque bolts. none of them had loctite.


has anyone else had this issue
I have owned Ducati motorcycles for years and stuff just falls off!!

If you are not happy get a jap bike lol
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Old Nov 27th 2012, 09:21 AM   #6
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i am happy with several lost screws:
- 2x silencer holding screws
- kickstand screw to motor
- 2x exhaust cover
- throttle body

i just say one word "lock tight" / loctite
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Old Nov 27th 2012, 11:13 AM   #7
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I don't get it, 3500 miles and I've not had anything fall off or come loose except allen bolt on a mirror, but that was my fault as didnt tighten enough after putting mirror back on after track day.

for that matter, I can recall any parts coming loose on any of my ducs. My sf is at 20k miles and not probs there.
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Old Nov 27th 2012, 09:58 PM   #8
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I once owned a Yamaha DT100 that kept breaking throttle cables right where the cable connected to the throttle slide. The engine would then ingest the small bit of cable that would break off requiring new piston, rings, cylinder and head. It did this 3 times before I decided that an aftermarket cable would be the best best. Soon afterwards I installed a 'For Sale' sign.

I owned a Honda CR125M Elsinore that kept cracking the left side lower engine mount at the frame rail. Despite being professional rewelded a number of times I decided that the bike simply did want this piece as a part of it's 'being'. The bike's will was stronger than mine. It was stolen not long afterwards. Someone else problem now.

I had a Yamaha Seca 750 that would sometimes just plain refuse to start. Usually when I was leaving from work in downtown Chicago. That bike instilled a real sense of pride in ownership as I worked up a sweat push starting it. One day I got tired of it's nonsense and left it sitting in the corner of the garage like a used whore. I sold it a year later to my brother-in-law for the cost of title transfer. He never had a problem starting it. I have never, and will never, buy another Yamaha product again. Piano, Guitar, tuning fork, bike or otherwise.

I once had a Kawasaki 900 that would empty its entire gas tank, up to the reserve level, when it was parked. Despite the petcock being on the OFF position. I learned to never have more than a gallon of gas in the tank. Despite replacing the petcock and having the tank pressure tested it continued with it's 'urge to purge' I sold it before the EPA caught up with me. Luckily gas was only 80 cents a gallon back then.

I had a Suzuki that flat refused to retain its seat bolts. Anyone have any idea how uncomfortable riding a 20 minute moto can be without a seat? I finally gave up on using bolts and resorted to zip ties. But only because in one race the seat fell off and on the next lap I actually ran over it. How humiliating!

I had another Honda that I swear had magnetic rims. That bike attracted every nail within a mile. I got real good at changing tire and repairing flats. These days I pay someone else to do that. I've gotten tired of having tire irons flying across the garage.

The point is, stuff happens. I have learned, after 40 + years of riding, a few things.

1) Bike have gotten much more reliable over time. Even Ducatis
2) Riding, and owning, a motorcycle is an adventure.
3) If you do not have the time, patience or wherewithall to deal with mechanical issues, buy a car.

Footnote: For all of the bizarre things that I have had happen to my bikes in the past both my GSXR750 and my 1199 have been dead reliable.

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Old Nov 28th 2012, 01:58 AM   #9
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Falling to pieces

WOW. thanks for the replies and feedback. i only joined last night and will be looking forward to exchanging stories with you all. thank you.

luckily for me i went to the melbourne motorcycle expo the following day and gave the head honcho a verbal grilling. ducati roadside assist picked my bike up on monday morning at 8 am sharp in a fancy enclosed bike transporter. i rang spare parts myself and ordered in all missing bolts to speed up process. the mechanics said they noticed quite a few lose bolts and said not enough loctite was used on the production line.

i have had six ducat's now this is the first time i have had so much bad luck but they say it comes in threes.

i hope everyone is checking their bolts after reading this it may save your life.


thanks guys


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Originally Posted by t1199panigale View Post
WOW. thanks for the replies and feedback. i only joined last night and will be looking forward to exchanging stories with you all. thank you.

luckily for me i went to the melbourne motorcycle expo the following day and gave the head honcho a verbal grilling. ducati roadside assist picked my bike up on monday morning at 8 am sharp in a fancy enclosed bike transporter. i rang spare parts myself and ordered in all missing bolts to speed up process. the mechanics said they noticed quite a few lose bolts and said not enough loctite was used on the production line.

i have had six ducat's now this is the first time i have had so much bad luck but they say it comes in threes.

i hope everyone is checking their bolts after reading this it may save your life.


thanks guys


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Thats what the forum is all about

But dude .... 6 Ducati's and only 2-posts .... and no pics. You gotta get busy
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