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Old Jul 5th 2017, 06:07 AM   #1
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Pirelli Slicks SC-1 Need advice and knowledge

So for the 1st time in 30 years I am going to slicks. Pirelli SC-1. Can anyone that remembers what this is like tell me what are some things I should be aware of going from DOT's to slicks. All of my experience has been racing on DOT's everything from Michelins, Metzelers. Dunlop SportMax back in the 80 &90s to Pirelli SuperCorsa SP V2's now. I was told at a recent track day it's about time I really go for some slicks since I am going tough DOT tires so quickly.

So I ask the forum what should I expect as far as feel and transition. BTW I do have Chickenhawk Professional tire warmers.

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Old Jul 5th 2017, 07:10 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Blade Runner View Post
So for the 1st time in 30 years I am going to slicks. Pirelli SC-1. Can anyone that remembers what this is like tell me what are some things I should be aware of going from DOT's to slicks. All of my experience has been racing on DOT's everything from Michelins, Metzelers. Dunlop SportMax back in the 80 &90s to Pirelli SuperCorsa SP V2's now. I was told at a recent track day it's about time I really go for some slicks since I am going tough DOT tires so quickly.

So I ask the forum what should I expect as far as feel and transition. BTW I do have Chickenhawk Professional tire warmers.

Thank you all in advance!

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What is driving your choice to use the SC-1 compound? I've been using Pirelli slicks for quite awhile now and really like them. However, I typically run the SC-2 compound.
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Old Jul 5th 2017, 12:39 PM   #3
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In the front run an SC2 rear SC0-SC2 depending on temp and track surface..


What youll notice is massive grip increase and performance. Its very noticeable and amazing.
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Old Jul 5th 2017, 12:43 PM   #4
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In the front run an SC2 rear SC0-SC2 depending on temp and track surface..


What youll notice is massive grip increase and performance. Its very noticeable and amazing.
I ran a set of SC0's for fun once. Got about 8 laps out of them lol.
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Old Jul 5th 2017, 02:25 PM   #5
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Personally I prefer the SC1 front for the softer carcass and improved feel on corner entry, but most people seem to prefer the stiffer carcass SC2 for the added stability in braking. Slicks are awesome IF you're running tire warmers AND running an Advanced pace so you'll keep heat in them. If you don't keep heat in them, then there is no improvement in grip over the DOT's. Generally, the wear tends to be better on the slicks if pressures are monitored carefully, but there are so many variables to that it's not a blanket "slicks last longer than DOT's" statement. If you're wearing out DOT's quickly you'd want to find out why that is, or you'll likely have the same problem with slicks. Suspension, riding style, pressures, etc. all have to be dialed in. For any of the "fast guys" I always put them on slicks unless they have to run DOT's for Supersport race classes, everything is better about the slicks.
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Old Jul 6th 2017, 01:52 AM   #6
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The Pirelli slicks are excellent for about 1/2 to 3/4 of a days hard riding and then they drop off considerably, much the same as the Supercorsas really. The feel and communication you get from them is great although I've found that whilst the S is happy on them , the R does not like them at all and really benefits from the stiffer compound on the Dunlop slicks.
I use an SC1 front in the UK as it's often colder but tend to mostly use SC2 front and rear everywhere else, sometimes a 1 on the rear if it's getting really hot. Most people in inters or above should benefit from using slicks, especially on a Panigale which are very strong on the brakes so usually get plenty of heat in the front quickly.
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I was looking at the Pirelli site today and noticed that they make a tire called the pro. Its intended fro endurance and track days. Anyone tried this tire?
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Originally Posted by Blade Runner View Post
I was looking at the Pirelli site today and noticed that they make a tire called the pro. Its intended fro endurance and track days. Anyone tried this tire?
Pirelli's corporate web sites are always horribly outdated, I would not pay any attention to them. The Pro was discontinued (which is great, since it was not a good tire) and has been replaced with the SC3 compound slicks (which is a MUCH better tire). The SC3's have a wide temperature range and hard rubber compound, so there's good for track day use at the expense of the outright grip of the SC1/SC2 tires.
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Old Jul 7th 2017, 07:57 PM   #9
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Ive just done a couple of back to back race meets. The aim was to get the 1299 set up and get a better understanding of tire wear and grip for the 1299. Running midfield in each of the race meets on different tracks and different riders (two thousand km apart). Far from good conditions .... last meet they sent us out with track temperature at -2 degrees for qualifying ! Sc1 front and Sc2 rear. The rear is going to give me 11 sprint races and the front will come off because of to many heat cycles. Note.... when the temp warms up i'll switch to Sc2 front and Sc1 then Sc0 rear.

Good advice from a Pirelli tech,
Go out and do a session hard, come in and get a temp reading . Lets say you achieved 65 degrees and your pressures are in the ball park. Set your tires at 65 degrees on the warmers and once they have stabilised set the pressures at 27 rear 34-35 front. Then if your climate is cold crank the T up to 85 to safe guard the lost time getting on track/grid or up to pace .

Any sign of tear, go up in pressure 1psi not down, as i have been making the mistake for to long. He insisted that underinflated tires give to much contact surface and doesnt heat the surface , resulting in cold tear. If you are riding aggressively enough you will get plenty of carcass flex , but you have to keep the top rubber soft.

Learnt so much getting the suspension right for the 1299 too , handy when its TB21 and his suspension guru that spent an afternoon helping me !
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Old Jul 8th 2017, 04:49 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
I ran a set of SC0's for fun once. Got about 8 laps out of them lol.
Truth lol. but that was the grippiest 8 laps ever right?
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