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Old Jun 26th 2017, 02:52 PM   #21
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No, his career is not over. JLo has a methodical approach to riding. I believe he'll get to 100% eventually if his frustrations don't get the best of him.

I thought Ducati signed the wrong man, JLo never struck me a someone who can out-ride the problems of the bike. Stoner, Marquez, Ben Spies in WSBK have proved they can win without the perfect machine while their teammates struggled. JLo was always on competitive machinery.

If JLo does not win a championship with Ducati, Ducati will sign young talent when the contract expires, while he'll be 32. Zarco is definitely an option if Yamaha doesn't make room for him.
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Old Jun 26th 2017, 03:19 PM   #22
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Old Jun 26th 2017, 03:37 PM   #23
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is 99 career over?

The front is strictly 070 tire. The compounds are what change
I am not sure if it was asymmetrical or not

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Old Jun 26th 2017, 03:39 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Halo2 View Post
He treated Yamaha like shit last year if it doesn't work out with ducati goodbye career


You mean Yamaha treated him like Shit right? Offering the same contract to your number 2 rider who has done nothing for you vs the guy who at the time won 50% of the championships.


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Old Jun 27th 2017, 12:19 AM   #25
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there are so many guys coming up that its either put up or go away. lets be real the only reason dani is still around is casey retired or it would be marquez and stoner on the repsol

lets continue as you bring up morbidelli and little marquez they are coming. zarco is here and folger is here. crashlow is doing well and they are bringing in (i will butcher the spelling) taka nakagami.

so there are a bunch of guys that i think have to go.
rossi
dani
tito
barber
bautista
smith (i like him but hes done)
both espargaro brothers.
abraham
redding
miller.
I can't restrain from commenting on your leavers list. It is my very solid opinion that most people do not realize/acknowledge how damn good EVERY rider on the grid is. I mean look at the differences in lap times in scope of the teams that are running the bikes: 2.5-3 sec from pole to last. That is damn close! To have a shot at the title there has to be a good mingle of different factors besides rider's skills that have more to do with the commercial potential of the rider. If you have a good management selling you to good sponsors you have better chance at landing at a stronger team. Merits like how good a rider is at giving useful feedback to mechanics only starts to count from there. Undoubtedly, Rossi is king of all (or most valuable) merits to take a rider to title potential. As said: including but not exhaustively rider skills. JLo is miles away from him when you compare them in this respect as are the riders on your list. And this is why a Moto2 WC will not necessarily excel in GP (eg. Bradl).
And on a side note: the WWF parallel is a good one that holds for all top professional sports with huge commercial potential. For real good racing watch one make series or club racing.
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Old Jun 27th 2017, 04:14 AM   #26
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I think this year will be a learning year for him. Next year he will be competitive and back at the front of the pack challenging for the win, unless it's raining of course.
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Old Jun 27th 2017, 04:46 AM   #27
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Why do people talk like the Ducati is the same as it was when Stoner was on an 800CC nuclear powered yoke on Bridgestones in 2007? It's a much better bike now than it has been since the year Stoner won it. It didn't take Dovi 5 years to learn to win - the thing is miles better than it was even 2 years ago. I guess it doesn't fit with the usual rhetoric.

Lorenzo's style is sensitive to set up - it always has been. He likes things in a particular way. I'm sure he'll get it working at some point. If not we can let all these world beaters that should replace the whole field besides Marquez and Vinaeles in!
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Why do people talk like the Ducati is the same as it was when Stoner was on an 800CC nuclear powered yoke on Bridgestones in 2007? It's a much better bike now than it has been since the year Stoner won it. It didn't take Dovi 5 years to learn to win - the thing is miles better than it was even 2 years ago. I guess it doesn't fit with the usual rhetoric.

Lorenzo's style is sensitive to set up - it always has been. He likes things in a particular way. I'm sure he'll get it working at some point. If not we can let all these world beaters that should replace the whole field besides Marquez and Vinaeles in!
This is correct. The current Ducati is completely different than anything Stoner rode (in competition) or Rossi rode. Lorenzo has never had to change/alter his style in MotoGP before, now he has to, while Ducati tries to build a bike closer to what he wants. They'll need to meet somewhere in the middle.

Realistically Ducati might be best positioned in the Michelin era - since the tires have such narrow operating ranges in terms of obtaining grip, setup is key, as is build philosophy. The Hondas seem to do best now in low-grip conditions, while the Yamaha is best in high-grip conditions. The Ducati seems to fall in between, and they might be able to leverage that with good results overall and Hayden their way into a championship - work hard and take the most points you can get consistently.
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Originally Posted by batmantis View Post
Why do people talk like the Ducati is the same as it was when Stoner was on an 800CC nuclear powered yoke on Bridgestones in 2007? It's a much better bike now than it has been since the year Stoner won it. It didn't take Dovi 5 years to learn to win - the thing is miles better than it was even 2 years ago. I guess it doesn't fit with the usual rhetoric.

Lorenzo's style is sensitive to set up - it always has been. He likes things in a particular way. I'm sure he'll get it working at some point. If not we can let all these world beaters that should replace the whole field besides Marquez and Vinaeles in!
It's all relative to the competition. 2007 Ducati was a step ahead of the field, and they have been dropping off every year since as Yamaha and Honda stepped up their game, until Gigi came to save the program.
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Old Jun 27th 2017, 03:26 PM   #30
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Jenny will ride for Ducati again next year, it was a 2 year contract worth around 25 Million American dollars. I do not think anyone with his resume would ride for a satellite team, that's for guys just coming up or test guys for the factory-See Crashlow!!! I could maybe see him riding for Suzuki or KTM in 2019, I would bet he retires after Ducati.Baby Marquez will join his brother in 2019 when Pedrosa gets pushed into retirement , I really believe if Zarco can keep it up he will replace Rossi in 19-20...That's all I got for your questions..
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