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Old Apr 24th 2014, 06:45 PM   #41
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Just joined and trolling? Not that it matters, but I've been a member quite a while.

Facts are facts, you can call their tech support as well. I was merely pointing out an incorrect statement. I have no vested interest either way, though I do enjoy learning about new products etc.
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Old Apr 24th 2014, 06:49 PM   #42
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whats really throwing me off is why this thread was moved. I see so much senseless shit in the 1199 section that stays around, Bmw vs 1199, How to patch a tire... But an actual good product and discussion is moved to the review section of the site. Something of value apparently is not good enough to stay on the main viewed section of the site. SMH.. Apologies MR shakazula shake your rump.
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Old Apr 24th 2014, 07:05 PM   #43
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Lol, no worries man. My intention was not to badmouth the Rapidbike module at all, in fact from a technical standpoint I think it's a far superior solution to a PCV simply due to not having to buy all those damn modules, the ignition mapping (HUGE), and the fact that nearly everyone I know who has used the PCV autotuner on track has ended up disconnecting it due to the issue I mentioned previously. I do think it's the way mapping is going to have to be done in the future, especially with more bike moving to ride by wire.

If they have a module for Aprilia, Yturan needs to get with those guys asap, because they have needed a product like this for the past four years and there currently isn't one available.
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Old Apr 24th 2014, 07:23 PM   #44
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I'm sorry, but again you are describing the Bazzaz setup. The PCV does indeed trim automatically. Again, it's why club racers are leery of that setup because the sensors fail and typically throw out a really lean signal. Which results in some really crazy ECU trims which can get really ugly. The bazzaz setup is safer in that instance because you have to accept the trims before they are applied. Otherwise you run the risk of not knowing it added +25 to your fuel.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. When I get the Rapid Bike Race module, once I've got the bike tuned by running on the track or on the backroads, I'll see if I can turn off the auto mapping until I make any mods or go to another altitude/climate. I can see how that could be potentially catastrophic if an O2 sensor goes bad and somehow reads rich and the system cuts too much fuel resulting in a dangerously lean condition. The converse would lead to fouled plugs which would just be a major annoyance. Worst case would be engine damage that could conceivably be proven to be the fault of the unit, voiding any subsequential warranty claims.

I'm sure the chances of that happening are relatively slim, but I don't want to be "that guy".
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I'm thinking it's more due to the quality of sensors included in the PCV kit. All just IMHO. It's not like the technology is new, so it's likely that another company kit would be fine.

Again, this is also from my observations for track/race use. Which is a reason the rapidbike is interesting to me because of the advantage that potentially exists when playing with ignition timing on race gas and motors with compression bumped slightly.
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Do any tuning solutions incorporate a knock sensor to retard timing or cut fuel to prevent detonation (pre-ignition)?
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And of course I am not arguing with any one here but, PCV AUTO TUNE is a dala logger, the trim map that it creates has to be manualy excepted via usb cable with the computer. Trim map is not applied to the base map automatically. again we sell all of these great products and install+tune. They all work great in general.

and on the Pani with dual Auto tune , how are you managing the O2 sensors, I am just curious ?
ROFLMAO. If you are not arguing with anybody here I would like to know what you are doing? Demonstrating your superior knowledge (I am of course not being sarcastic, but simply curious)?

I stand by my point that the PCV with autotune can do real time afr adjustments to a motorcycle. We are apparently speaking to different people at Dynojet. I am prepared to admit that if you do not do intensive research on this matter you will probably think that it can not do real time afr adjustments.

The management of the two wide band lamda sensors installed in the Dragon Lady's Termignoni exhaust manifolds is done by the AT 300 dual channel autotune model available at Dynojet and supplied for use on the Ducati Panigale.

If you want to I can arrange that Dynojet updates you on their products available and the capacities thereof? I am of course just trying to be helpful.
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ROFLMAO. If you are not arguing with anybody here I would like to know what you are doing? Demonstrating your superior knowledge (I am of course not being sarcastic, but simply curious)?

I stand by my point that the PCV with autotune can do real time afr adjustments to a motorcycle. We are apparently speaking to different people at Dynojet. I am prepared to admit that if you do not do intensive research on this matter you will probably think that it can not do real time afr adjustments.

The management of the two wide band lamda sensors installed in the Dragon Lady's Termignoni exhaust manifolds is done by the AT 300 dual channel autotune model available at Dynojet and supplied for use on the Ducati Panigale.

If you want to I can arrange that Dynojet updates you on their products available and the capacities thereof? I am of course just trying to be helpful.
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Sunshine, thanks for the review...was at Melillimoto today and gonna put the Rapidbike on my Panigale.
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Just ordered my akra exhaust and leaning towards rapid bike as my "tune" mostly because redline/rexxer has left a terrible taste in my mouth (which is pretty bad considering they are my local dealer) and would like to have nothing to do with them, keep us informed of how everything is working out
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